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On losing to a cheater...

Discussion in 'General Pinewood Derby Discussion' started by DerbyDave, Apr 8, 2019.

  1. DerbyDave

    DerbyDave Hammering Axles

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    My daughter finished second to an obvious cheat this weekend (girl’s parent, not the girl). Rules were mostly vague and my daughter worked them right up to the line but the one that was unambiguous was that you had to use the parts from the box you were issued and wheels could not be lightened by removing material. The cheat clearly had purchased lightened wheels online or bored out the interior as they had no markings whatsoever.

    My car (adult race) beat her time by a mere 0.0016 average over seven races and I was running a SB extreme and all the good stuff you guys taught me here. So my question is how would you handle this next year?
     
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    Northstar Hammering Axles

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    IMO, you talk to the race organizers before next years race. Explain your concerns and let it go after that. Plenty of lessons to teach your daughter about perseverance and overcoming to spoil it by throwing a temper-tantrum over what may be a gray area of the rule book and setting that example.
     
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    Bw56 Pinewood Ninja

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    You and your daughter did not fail. The inspector failed. Makes me wonder if he even knew what to look for. Lightened wheels are not that hard to spot. I know I've spotted worse. Don't stoop to their level. I agree to bring it up and let it go.
     
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    "The Fonze" District Champion Pro Racer

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    If you want to win build a fast car that passes inspection. I know some people who have built more than one car.
     
  5. Pinewood Outlaw

    Pinewood Outlaw Workshop Leader

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    So they let you pick up their car and look at the insides of the wheels?
     
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    Loud2ns Pack Champion

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    At our regional Awana race we had people looking at our family's cars very closely, even taking close-up pics. Got accused of illegal wheels. They were cleared by the race director. I don't even look at peoples stuff, so it is a foreign concept to me.
     
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    DuckOfAllTrades League Racer

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    Wow, can't imagine being able to get a close-up view of the other cars. At our scout races, they are always impounded after check-in and put behind tables so only the race coordinators can interact with them. I would think allowing others to see them up close would allow for sabotage, Tonya Harding style, or for you to make an alteration to your own car.
     
  8. DerbyDave

    DerbyDave Hammering Axles

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    After the race they let everyone to the table to get their cars. Just looked at that car to see if anything obvious stood out. It did.
     
  9. Pinewood Outlaw

    Pinewood Outlaw Workshop Leader

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    Guess you got better eye sight than me...I'd have to pick it up to see inside wheel
     
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    Same here.
     
  11. Charles Studer

    Charles Studer District Champion Pro Racer

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    DONT TOUCH MY CARS!!!!!!
     
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    xjarcher Rail Runner

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    I was the race director that Loud is talking about. He had emailed me about lathing the tread to get the wheel round and flat. The rules don't prohibit it. However the guy who had an illegal car was the one protesting the loudest. He had a very well built car that used graphite. When I told him it was illegal he said " if its in the wheel bores but not on the axle its legal" He didn't know I was the guy in charge. OOPS! I told him no matter let's race. I knew that there were 3 cars that would beat him. He actually finished 8th out of 9 and had two cars that used pledge for lube beat him. A little bit of poetic justice. Hopefully he learned something after a beat down like that. I like restricting who has access more than we do now.
     
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    Charles Studer District Champion Pro Racer

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    Lol....hey why no like button for my previous post?

    DONT TOUCH MY CARS!!!!!
     
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    Charles Studer District Champion Pro Racer

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    Booo no like buttons for me.....
     
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    Charles Studer District Champion Pro Racer

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    I would like to officially LIKE my two previous posts.
     
  16. Charles Studer

    Charles Studer District Champion Pro Racer

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    Thanks 2ns guess I can't like my own posts....lol
     
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    At our previous district we were allowed to walk up and look at all the cars before racing but were not allowed to touch cars. I always enjoyed being able to see what others did.

    At our current district's race, cars were stored 50 feet away from everyone and it made for a boring pre-race. There was no talking shop either.
     
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    DuckOfAllTrades League Racer

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    Correct, I just liked your last post for you.
     
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    At our last district race, when my son picked up his car, one of the axles was half pulled out. I am wondering if that happened in the last run or someone got curious and pulled out the axle to take a look, didn't hear any protest though about us using oil (which was allowed, but think most people didn't know).
     

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